Chasing Curiosity, with Brian Koppelman — [Invest Like the Best, EP.21]

My guest this week is writer, director, producer, and podcast host Brian Koppelman, who’s film credits include ‘Rounders’, ‘Oceans 13’, and ‘Solitary Man’. More recently he co-created the Showtime show, ‘Billions’, which allowed us to have some fun talking about the world of hedge funds and investing.  Brian’s method for chasing curiosity is something that everyone can learn apply in their own lives.  In this chat, we discuss creativity, the importance of storytelling and why we are all so intrigued by billionaires.

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Books Referenced

What I Talk About When I Talk About Running: A Memoir

Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity

Buffett: The Making of an American Capitalist

The Anxiety of Influence: A Theory of Poetry

The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity

Awaken the Giant Within : How to Take Immediate Control of Your Mental, Emotional, Physical and Financial Destiny!

Dear Chairman: Boardroom Battles and the Rise of Shareholder Activism

Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman

Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike

The financier

 

Links Referenced

Couch To 5K

Happy People: A Year in the Taiga

Grizzly Man

Meru

180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless

Show Notes

1:28 – (first question) – Patrick asks Brian if he did TM as soon as he started getting into meditation.  The two discuss the benefits of meditation.

2:57 – Looking at other experiences that match the feeling of meditation, which includes a discussion on running and sports

4:06 – What I Talk About When I Talk About Running: A Memoir

4:12 – Couch To 5K

5:57 – Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity

6:10 – Looking at how the idea for ‘Solitary Man’ came to be and the creative process that led to it finally getting done

12:30 – Why Brian must be curious about a character’s motivation to write about them

13:20 – Why it can be difficult to stand pat

13:23 – Buffett: The Making of an American Capitalist

14:05 – Exploring the creative process, which requires curiosity and strangeness

14:29 – The Anxiety of Influence: A Theory of Poetry

16:39 – What does Brian do to make it possible to be creative. He discusses routines and the morning pages

16:59 – The Artist’s Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity

18:51 – How Brian met his writing partner David Levien and how David helped him become a successful writer

19:08 – Awaken the Giant Within : How to Take Immediate Control of Your Mental, Emotional, Physical and Financial Destiny!

23:43 – Getting immersed in a subject and how Brian got interested in the topic that led to the Showtime show Billions

26:15 – Interesting discussion on how billionaires are more like nation-states than citizens

28:35 – Exploration of why billionaires are celebrated in the US, even more so than athletes and rock stars

32:48 – How having lots of money can impact the way people relate to you

37:14 – Why so much reverence for billionaires and why they are obsessed with attaining that kind of wealth

40:48 – When people have a passion for something, they seem to be happier in life.

41:22 – Dear Chairman: Boardroom Battles and the Rise of Shareholder Activism

 

44:48 – Patrick talks about why some carpenters have unmatched happiness in life

46:08 – Happy People: A Year in the Taiga

46:30 – Grizzly Man

46:49 – Why we tell stories and some of the rules that need to be followed

49:48 – Why Brian started his podcast

 

50:33 – Stories across time are all the same and curiosity is the best way to discover good ones

51:07 – Meru

51:26 – 180 Degrees South: Conquerors of the Useless

51:57 – Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman

52:04 – Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of Nike

52:35 – The financier

53:19 – Looking at Brian’s most memorable day

58:30 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Brian

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